jasonorc
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Post by jasonorc on May 12, 2007 9:45:42 GMT
Dragons exist! think, many years ago we had pictures on walls of dragons! so did the chnese, but we had no contact at that time, so how did we both come up with same sort of thing, this slowly popped up through history! also, is it that impossible, just look at the thingyens theory, that seems feesable! Or, is it possible that they died out, like the dodo, you don't know about every single dinosaur that existed, but we're sure they did! so whats wrong with dragons existing? thank you, told ya! post your arguments here and I'll see if i can find a way of provong dragons existed past your arguments!
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Post by Lex on May 16, 2007 14:38:22 GMT
Hi Jasonorc As far as i am aware there arent any confirmed findings of pictures on walls from ancient times depicting dragons. I think people travelled around in those times a lot more than we think but suppose they didnt. It is very possible that two different sets of people can come up with a creature based on a serpent or lizard at roughly the same time. That could be a coincidence. And dont forget the western dragon is very different from the oriental dragon. What is the thinyens theory? In regards to dragons having dies out, scientists strongly believe we would have found the bones of at least one dragon and yet none so far have been found and identified with any certainty.
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The Darkest Shadow
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"Step into the darknesss..if you wish to find the light"-T.D.S
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Post by The Darkest Shadow on May 25, 2007 17:52:03 GMT
Well anyone who knows dragons as well as i do ( and of course being one..well you can't know them much better than that) will know clearly that they existed.
btw Lex if you checked draconic before you came here, you will have already met me...
I'm Akataras T.D.S I welcomed you to the draconic forums.
And you'll probably know that i'm a dracologist so no need for any real introduction.
it's also good to finally find humans that actually understand the prospect of dragons having existed.
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Post by Lex on May 25, 2007 18:54:42 GMT
Im curious, what is with so many of you claiming to be dragons? Is it a roleplay thing or do you genuinly believe you are a dragon? Either way someone who likes dragons is more than welcome here Oh and i didnt "come here" i made this place, as humble as it is. I did however have a good look around your website. Very good
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The Darkest Shadow
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"Step into the darknesss..if you wish to find the light"-T.D.S
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Post by The Darkest Shadow on May 26, 2007 7:26:10 GMT
We don't roleplay that we are dragons.
We don't think that we are dragons.
We know that we are dragons.
Oh and by came here I meant checked the forums.
Probably not the best choice of words.
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Post by Lex on May 26, 2007 9:23:01 GMT
Dragons that can change into a human form?
You have to excuse my skepticism but as fascinated by dragons as i am i dont actually believe in their existence so i find what you tell me very hard to believe.
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The Darkest Shadow
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"Step into the darknesss..if you wish to find the light"-T.D.S
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Post by The Darkest Shadow on May 26, 2007 17:33:11 GMT
Dragons that can change into a human form? You have to excuse my skepticism but as fascinated by dragons as i am i dont actually believe in their existence so i find what you tell me very hard to believe. We aren't able to shift in or out of human form...we were reincarnated into human form...and kinda can't change. Which might I add, sucks.
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Post by Balsiefen on Jun 6, 2007 21:49:53 GMT
Hi Jasonorc As far as i am aware there arent any confirmed findings of pictures on walls from ancient times depicting dragons. I think people travelled around in those times a lot more than we think but suppose they didnt. It is very possible that two different sets of people can come up with a creature based on a serpent or lizard at roughly the same time. That could be a coincidence. And dont forget the western dragon is very different from the oriental dragon. What is the thinyens theory? In regards to dragons having dies out, scientists strongly believe we would have found the bones of at least one dragon and yet none so far have been found and identified with any certainty. most likely i think are the dinosaurs. in chinese mythology i belive there was a dragon which failed to get into hevan, died, and fell to the ground and was bueried. its bones were later found by the chinese. a simular discovery proberbly happened in the west as well
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The Darkest Shadow
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"Step into the darknesss..if you wish to find the light"-T.D.S
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Post by The Darkest Shadow on Jun 9, 2007 7:02:58 GMT
Do you want me to tell you the reason they can't find any dragon bones...
through my years of study i've found only one possible conclusion...
dragon bones bio-degrade...so like the body they practically dissapear to nothing..the same can be said for the teeth...while the dragon is alive and the parts are attached they cannot biodegrade due to a dragons nervous system...
But of course after death or when somethings not attached the nerve endings ie out and thus they bio-degrade...
it took me 4 years to figure that one out...
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Post by Lex on Jun 9, 2007 9:54:28 GMT
I have actually come up with a theory as to why dragon bones havent been found.
If you have a look at the physiology section under Dragon Types you will see it.
Its to doing with the stomach releasing Hydrochloric acid when they are alive in the process which leads to flying. When they die, those valves open up and disolve the bones.
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Haydena
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Post by Haydena on Jun 19, 2007 14:22:40 GMT
Valves? You mean the stomach opens up and the hydrochloric acid spills out dissolving the bones?
I'm not sure that would be entirely full proof, I'm not saying that I don't believe that dragons ever existed, because I am not sure, they could have, just not as the fire breathing monsters most stories depict them as. I just think that if hyrochloric acid was the reason then at least a little bit of evidence would be left behind.
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Post by Lex on Jun 19, 2007 16:01:43 GMT
Again i have thought of that. Have a look at the physiology section of the website.
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Haydena
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Post by Haydena on Jun 19, 2007 16:08:00 GMT
Oh right, of course, didn't notice that, it's a very interesting read, can't wait 'till you get all this other stuff up like the A-Z.
It's very much open for debate, whether or not dragons ever existed in reality or only in stories. Of course there is plenty of evidence to support that they did exist, just never any hard facts that can prove to us materialistic humans whether or not these mighty beasts really did or not. I guess it's all down to your opinion.
My opinion, well I'm split, I'd like to believe they did exist, but there are certain things that bring me to believe that they didn't. Of course, these pictures of dragons, and the fact that we now today universally recognise the term 'dragon' is evidence enough, either that or someone has a very good imagination.
However where are the remains? That is the biggest part of my semi-disbelief. I must admit that it is a bit short sighted of me, needing proof infront of me however I feel I cannot believe anything without hard solid evidence....
Just my two cents...
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Post by Lex on Jun 19, 2007 19:30:56 GMT
Well as i stated i personally dont believe in dragons.
However i do believe they are not an impossible creature. Yes its unlikely the acid dissolved all the bones. But the remains of the bones could easily be mistaken for dinosaur bones.
There is of course another theory... ... Maybe they buried their dead or (that being a possibility) it is possible they ate their dead or someother custom we arent aware of which makes the bones unfindable.
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Haydena
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Post by Haydena on Jun 19, 2007 21:38:18 GMT
It is of course possible that it could be any reason that we could concievably think of. We have no idea of knowing for certain whether dragons existed or not a long time ago, whether we will in the future is another thing. So at the moment it is much down to personal beliefs. These theories seem to show a dragon as a perfectly normal creature that could easily exist, there is nothing abnormal about it that would mean that it is impossible, everything is explained perfectly with proof. So either it is true or as I said a very, very vivid imagination .
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